How To Do Nothing, With Artist And Educator Jenny Odell

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We all think we’re experts at “doing nothing,” but there’s a difference between numbing out by staring at Facebook and truly letting your mind rest.

There are concrete benefits to doing absolutely nothing — like actually being present in your life and noticing what’s around you.

To help us constructively veg out, we’ve brought in essayist and TED speaker Pico Iyer, Lifehacker’s Human Resource columnist Rob Walker, and artist and educator Jenny Odell, whose new book, How to Do Nothing, teaches us how to resist the “attention economy.” We recommend listening with your feet up and your eyes closed.

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