How To Tell If You're Dating A Psychopath, With Jen Waite And Michael Stone

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How do you deal with a psychopath? What if you realise you married one? This week on The Upgrade we’re joined by Jen Waite, author of A Beautiful, Terrible Thing: A Memoir of Marriage and Betrayal, and Dr Michael Stone, professor of psychiatry at Columbia University and author of The Anatomy of Evil, to talk about psychopaths, sociopaths and narcissists: How to recognise them, how to avoid them, and how to disentangle yourself from them.

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This week we talked about:

  • How the “everyday psychopath” draws people in
  • The “idealise, devalue, discard” cycle
  • Dealing with the aftermath of a toxic relationship
  • Redefining “evil” in secular terms
  • Diagnosing a psychopath
  • The difference between a sociopath and a psychopath

Our Upgrades of the Week

Every week we like to let you in on the upgrades we’ve made in our own lives. This week we shared a trick for getting up from your desk more, the freedom of ignoring social media, and buying dessert first.


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