Ask LH: Can I Move States To Escape A Speeding Fine?

Ask LH: Can I Move States To Escape A Speeding Fine?

Hey Lifehacker, So I’ve lost my licence in NSW for a speeding fine for going 20 over. I am a Red P plater. Is there any way I can “move” to Melbourne and get a Victorian licence while I’m under 18? Thanks, Speed Racer

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Dear SR,

A few decades ago, it was possible for suspended drivers to "hop state lines" and obtain a new licence with the authorities being none the wiser. Fortunately (for other motorists) Australia's road and traffic authorities are now interconnected via the Australian Road Rules agreement and the Demerit Points Scheme. This means that any penalties you have incurred interstate will carry across to your new licence.

As VicRoads explains on its website, your interstate licence and/or learner permit details will be verified with the relevant state or territory prior to approval. In other words, your NSW suspension will still apply.

Frankly, this is a highly favourable outcome for everyone involved. As a provisional driver under the age of 18, you clearly shouldn't be driving 20 kilometres over the speed limit under any circumstances whatsoever. Suck it up and try not to drive so dangerously when you get your next licence.


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  • Not to mention the fact that you can’t get your licence at all in Victoria until you’re 18. Are Wodonga kids still getting around the rules to get a NSW licence in Albury at 17?

  • I’m glad you’re off the road. Serves you right for driving like an idiot and endangering everyone around you. Suffer!!!

  • you could just move to Melbourne (notice the lack of quotation) and not endanger anyone on NSW roads

  • Jeebus, it’s a road, not a freaking playground! Grow up and accept the consequences of your actions, speed limits are there for a reason. I know you’re probably sitting there thinking “Oh but I’m a really good driver, I can handle doing that speed”, but guess what? All those idiots out there who have killed or maimed other people on the roads probably thought exactly the same thing.

  • Glad you’re (theoretically) off the roads. Hope you were cancelled for 5 years.

    And if you’re stupid enough to drive anyway, hope you get caught and locked up.

  • I was on my Red Ps in NSW and moved to QLD, originally with an Auto only licence.

    When it was time for my green Ps I went to QLD Transport and they gave me a QLD licence without that restriction. Win.

    Also @Chrisjager, why is this site lagging on IE? I have to type 10WPM to avoid errors.

    otherwiseif i typenormally, tenths wil happe

    • Similar thing used to happen in Victoria, you had your P’s with an Auto only restriction, then when you got your full license you could magically drive a manual all of a sudden. I’m hoping they fixed that up.

      • Unlike others I know, I manned up and properly learned to drive manual and now wouldn’t drive any other way.

        Though some people I barely trust driving let alone with a manual licence

      • They have not fixed it and they never will, same applies to high powered vehicles if you spend your life in eco boxes then all of a sudden your license grants you the power to drive a high powred car what do you think happens?

        vicroads dont and wont ever care about its drivers.

  • jeez, the public have been brainwashed by all the TAC commercials and police telling you all that 20km/ph over the limit is going to certainly kill someone. Ever been through a roadworks zone where the speed was lowered from 80 to 40?….Ever been through that same zone at 3am and done 60? Not exactly a big deal is it?

    Get off you high horses, I bet every one of you has travelled over the speed limit before.

    And in Victoria, if you have an auto licence you can drive manual after your P’s. I did, it’s not rocket science, only takes an hour of practice to get the fundamentals, then just practice till you feel comfortable. @ricadam it’s not called manning up, lol. It’s just called learning how to do it.

    • There is a big difference between an experienced driver driving over the speed limit under the right conditions and a 17 year old who has just got his licence doing 20km over.

      If he is stupid enough to jeopardize his licence and the safety of other road users so soon after getting his licence he should get used to walking.

  • If this is a real question from a real person, then I’m absolutely amazed that someone with such a shallow, self-centred, narcissistic attitude hasn’t already caused death and destruction to all around him.

  • Just to be slightly fairer to him than the article regarding the infringement – it is VERY easy to go 20 over the limit when you hit a school zone and the clock just happens to tick over to 3:00pm.

    I agree with the rest, just thought I’d say it’s a bit harsh to be branding him a “dangerous” driver without the full context of the situation.

    • I think the lack of context in his email is pretty damning. If he was unlucky or a victim of circumstance, you’d think he would mention it in passing.

    • In theory he could be driving at 110kph in a zone posted at that speed. Since P1 drivers are capped at 90kph, he could be driving at the speed limit but still exceed *his* speed limit by 20kph.

      But in general I agree with the others here – I’m glad that shifting states is not a valid workaround. It’s a bit like the old dodge of using an International Drivers Permit to avoid accumulating points (which I’m also pretty sure never actually worked.)

  • Sometimes NSW offer tripple demerit points over holiday periods, does that apply to those unbelievers who reside outside NSW?

    • In W.A. it only goes as high as double demerits during holiday periods and some long weekends. Increased demerit points is a good idea but triple sounds overkill.

  • …your interstate licence and/or learner permit details will be verified with the relevant state or territory prior to approval. In other words, your NSW suspension will still apply.
    Frankly, this is a highly favourable outcome for everyone involved.

    Indeed a favourable outcome. You shouldnt be able to escape your mistakes and the punishment should stand no matter where you are in Australia so you learn a lesson. The last thing we need is more maniacs on the road.

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