Kogan Selling Imported Android Phones And iPhones

Kogan sells its own branded Android tablets, but plans to sell its own Android phones haven't ever come to fruition. But having already started selling parallel import versions of name brand electronics, the site's move into selling discounted Android phones and iPhones isn't exactly a surprise. Models on offer include the HTC Desire S, Incredible S and Evo 3D, the Samsung Galaxy S II, the Motorola Atrix 4G and, unsurprisingly, the iPhone 4.

As Alex over at Gizmodo points out, the main thing you might want to be careful of if pursuing this model is ensuring the imported phones run on suitable frequencies for your needs; Telstra's 850MHz spectrum might not be supported, for instance. If you want an outright buy, it's definitely cheaper than through a carrier, but careful research (as always) makes sense.



    Of course if you do buy one of these phones you would potentially be in breach of the A-Tick rules for importing a non-compliant phone.


    I'll let the experts argue that one. But of course remembering previous discussions of the T&Cs - Kogan are telling us that the customer is the importer of the product. So if it is illegal, the customer will be on the hook not Kogan.

      Forgot to note from the above link:

      "You should also be aware that it is illegal to connect telecommunications items that do not carry the A-Tick compliance label and that penalties can be imposed."

      It should be noted that even though Australian models of equipment might get the A-Tick, the overseas variants could have minor differences (e.g. frequency) that interfere with carrier equipment.

        It is interesting that the ACMA documentation mentions "connecting" as illegal and not just importing. Doesn't this make all tourists roaming with their non A-tick mobile phones in Australia open to penalties?

        According to Kogan's T&C you are liable for any import taxes on top of their sales price so this may push to total cost higher than local products.

    the ACMA laws referenced above are a perfect example of how silly, nonsensical and outdated most government regulations are. It also clearly shows that government departments like ACMA have no idea about the industry they attempt to "govern" - based on the above ACMA regulations, EVERY SINGLE TOURIST who comes to Australia and brings a phone with them has broken our law and become a CRIMINAL the moment they switch their phone on after their plane lands. What does the ACMA actually do that's useful?? Why do we even need them??

    These imports are keeping prices down, so i'll happily buy one without an A-tick. ACMA have no idea what's going on in the industry.

    If any of you read more into what is and isn't allowed you would've found:

    "A mobile phone for personal use may be brought into Australia and connected to a mobile telecommunications network provided the phone meets Australian standards. If you are thinking about bringing a mobile phone back from overseas with you for personal use, check with your carrier or service provider before you take the trip. Some features available on a mobile phone purchased overseas may not be supported by an Australian carrier and may not be available within Australia. There are no labelling requirements for a mobile phone imported for personal use by this method."

    And that's why Kogan has to say that the customer is the importer. It's illegal for companies to mass-import phones but okay for individuals to import for personal use. That's why these are called grey imports.

      Except you have no way of knowing if the imported device actually does meet Australian standards.

      I have read of at least one instance where someone that purchased online a Dect cordless phone (a model that was also avalable in Aus). He was investigated by the authorities (i assume amca) and ordered to turn the devices off because it was intefering with telco equipment. It was a minor frequency overlap on the 850 mhz band.

        But that product is not a mobile phone.

          Correct, but any telecommunication device is capable of interfering with the network. Be it cordless phones, or mobiles.

          With the example above, my understanding is that the person didn't get fined. However it was obviously causing the telco enough problems that it had to send people out with wireless sniffers to track down the offending device.

          They could have charged the owner of the offending device for those costs - which could easily amount to tens of thousands of dollars.

          The kicker in the argument is exactly what you have quoted "provided the phone meets Australian standards". Unless you can prove your imported phone actually complies with the standards, you are still on the hook if anything goes wrong.

            But any other telecommunications device is not allowed to connect to Australian networks. Of course some mobile phones may possibly interfere but the majority will work as long as they use the same frequencies, if they didn't the ACMA would not allow mobile phone imports.

            There is a giant database at www.gsmarena.com where you can check what bands different phones use. If it uses the same bands as Australian mobile networks it'll work.

            If mobiles had such a big impact there would not even be the possibility of importing for personal use. The main point of my original post was just to show that is not illegal to connect a mobile phone therefore not "EVERY SINGLE TOURIST who comes to Australia and brings a phone with them has broken our law and become a CRIMINAL the moment they switch their phone on after their plane lands", and possibly indirectly show that the ACMA actually does know about the industry they govern.

            Basically saying that above comments didn't really know about what they were talking about, attacking ACMA regulations without knowing what they actually are.

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