What price an Aussie iPhone?

iPhone3G.jpgI guess we shouldn't complain — Australians will get the new 3G iPhone on July 11, the earliest date that anyone will, and we get a choice of networks (Vodafone and Optus) which is more than the original iPhone ever boasted. But while US customers are promised a US$199 phone, both Optus and Vodafone are only saying that pricing details will be announced at a later date.

Vodafone says both prepay and contract plans will be available; Optus hasn't even got that level of detail, but does offer a site where you can pre-register your interest, and the option to pay $100 against the price to jump to the head of the queue. Do you honestly need a new phone that badly? (Vodafone is also planning a similar site at iphone.vodafone.com.au, though this isn't yet live.) Anyway, what's the bet that US$199 translates as something more than the $210-odd that current exchange rates would imply?


    Is there a size limit to comments?

    I've posted twice now with detailed responses and information to numerous questions and issues raised above but only my third, one-line post has so far made it through. :/

    I will submit it all again one last time in my next post, and maybe if LH mods are objecting to some part of it they can strip that part out and leave the useful information for the benefit of the people asking questions here?? :|

    - Matthew

    Hi Matthew, Sorry about that. Because your original comments had a large number of links, it was automatically blocked by the anti-spamming system. I'll retrieve one of the original posts and put it through if appropriate.

    First one had four links and second had three... I figured it must have been automatic but couldn't guess exactly why. Thanks for sorting it, I did want my first LH post to be helpful =)

    mmmm US$199, seems too good to be true....i highly doubt that it will sell that cheap in Australia....of course Vodafone and Optus will hike up the prices, because they know people will buy regardless....i hope it's only $199 US....i read on an american news site that it be $199US globally....don't know whether this is true though.....

    I think Joel is getting there with the prepay price of $400-$600. You need to look at price patterns from other Apple products. Firstly, you pay a lot more if buying outside of the States.

    Secondly, I think of the iPhone as an iPod Touch with a heap more features. So take a look at the price of one of those and add a few hundred dollars. I won't be surprised to see a prepay iPhone at $499-$699 depending on the model (8/16GB).

    Thirdly, you will get it on contact for close to $199 but you must remember that with this you are paying monthly payments, some of which would go to Apple. If you want prepay you are basically buying it straight from Apple, and in that instance they only have one chance to take your cash.

    Bianca: "mmmm US$199, seems too good to be true"

    It is.

    I searched for ~20 minutes trying to find a transcript of what he (Steve Jobs) ACTUALLY said and not some journo's paraphrasing! ... well, i looked at some other stuff too, but anyhoo I eventually just gave up and watched it on youtube... I don't want to get filtered again for including links, but the youtube video code is "4yVQJ6jJPak". Just go to any youtube video and put that after the "watch?v=" part in the address bar.

    What Apple (Steve) actually said [from 3m 30s]:
    STEVE JOBS, APPLE CEO: "And I'm really happy to tell you, that the iPhone 3G, is going to sell... for one-ninety-nine ... at just a hundred and ninety-nine dollars"
    and later, referring to the first 22 included in the rollout, including Australia:
    "...and in almost every one of these countries, the price is a maximum of one-ninety-nine".

    What it sounded like Steve said:
    "iPhone 3G = US$199"

    What Steve/Apple actually meant:
    "NETWORK-LOCKED iPhone = US$199 + 18/24mth Service Contract with Early Termination Fees applicable"

    What AT&T (the US carrier providing the iPhone there) said:
    "About 90 minutes after Jobs concluded his keynote, AT&T held its own press conference to announce some major changes in the way iPhones are sold. You now must immediately agree to a two-year contract with AT&T whether you buy the iPhone in one of Apple's stores or one of AT&T's stores, and there will be no online ordering." -- http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9964230-37.html
    (In the same article, it mentions that the iPhone 3G might not be able to support the instant messaging that every other current smartphone can, and doesn't allow users to copy+paste on the handset...!?)

    The *unlocked*, no-strings-attached iPhone 3G (if any are even sold like this) will NOT be available _anywhere_ in the world for the equivalent of ONLY US$199 (let alone _everywhere_)... until they have been out long enough for stolen/fake ones to start being hocked on ebay, of course :P

    On the bright side, UK Carrier O2 has confirmed that it will have the iPhone 3G available free on a plan which is equal to about AU$88, so worst case scenario I'd bet it would be free on our (Optus) $79 plan - and as I said earlier, it's likely to debut on a $49 cap. In Australia we tend to have really crap outright prices, and about double the cancellation costs of other countries, but our handset subsidies on plans tend to be better.

    I bet this post gets filtered for being too long-winded, now. :P

    - Matthew

    I have heard from someone working within Telstra that the iPhone will be released, just around 2 weeks after the July 11th release date, so they will probably be cheaper (at least by Telstra's standards), as they will not have paid for any excessive advertising.
    I haven't been told of pricing yet, but expect around a $60-$80 PLAN, not cap. I would imagine it would be put at a similar price range to the current Sony Ericsson K850i, as the SE is superior in some ways to an iPhone, and the iPhone is being looked upon currently as a 'budget' smartphone.

    The main strength of the iPhone 3G over my current Ericsson appears to be the responsiveness... My current phone has served me well, and I'm not going to get an iPhone myself (partly because I *know* there will be stupid restrictions on them and I won't be able to mess around with it as I would like to), but that's certainly something it has going for it... whether it's processing speed or good programming perhaps, all I know is that the 3G iPhone is very easy to flick around between menus and applications at geek-speed without lagging, and I sure hope my next phone does that.

    The camera spec sucks (2MP) and doesn't handle motion blur well at all, but for still photos it works okay, it makes it look like most phones do at 3.2MP, maybe because of the good display, not sure.. picture editing on the phone itself (3G iPhone) is lacking; see, that's the sort of thing I'm talking about, there's no sane reason why a modern phone with this much hype shouldn't at least be able to adjust contrast/bright/hue/gamma/resize/crop/etc on the handset itself, but I guess Apple wants everyone to have to install their iTunes crap to be able to do anything with their content... *sigh*

    The 3G iPhone is not designed as a stand-alone device, it's geared towards getting people to use Apple's software on their home PCs since they are crippled in accessing all the functions and content otherwise... I don't like that kind of company attitude, I'm very selective about what makes it onto my computer and that's one of the main reasons why I won't be getting this phone (but I will probably still be quite happy selling it - it has a few good points).

    Sorry if this post was a bit ranty. I'm impatiently waiting for a good Ericsson with voice-guided GPS, preloaded aussie map, touchscreen or flip, 4GB+ memory, and has to not feel like a toy.. I have yet to see any other phone that handles texting as well as an Ericsson ;)

    In case you haven't heard, Telstra have released their iPhone prices (and at the same time confirming they will be th third official carrier of the iPhone). No mention of an outright price for prepay, or if they will even do such a thing...

    8GB iPhone is $279 up front on the $30/month plan, or free on $80/month plan - both on a 24 month contract.

    16GB iPhone is $399 up front on the $30/month plan, or free on the $100/month plan - both on a 24 month contract.

    We covered this here http://www.lifehacker.com.au/tips/2008/06/30/the_iphone_gets_a_price_and_telstra_joins_the_party.html Note that Telstra hasn't released full pricing information -- we don't know what voice and data inclusions are for any of the plans.

    I have found the following site from Optus and if the site is correct they are releasing the phone for $729 or $849 8mb or 16 mb respectively. So much for being released across the world for $US199. The site is www.iphones3g.com.au/optus-announce-australia-iphone-3g-price/ - 11k - i hope

    We analysed the Optus plans here: http://www.lifehacker.com.au/tips/2008/07/03/iphone_pricing_choosing_the_best_optus_plan.html

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