@holymogwai: Why?

The iPhone has WiFi, so all features are available anywhere you have an access point accessible. I have an iPhone with no data plan. Personally, I use it so I'm not carrying 2 devices (a phone and an ipod), plus the interface is the cleanest I've ever seen on a phone. All the smartphone functions work sans data plan.

I have a "decent" camera for quick snapshots, an ipod, a phone, full internet wherever there is an access point (so maps, youtube, weather, stocks, e-mail), synchronization to my desktop, and since mine is jailbroken - a level, a flashlight, and an NES emulator, just for the hell of it.

Sure doesn't sound very "useless" to me.

bkpatt

A friend of mine made me aware of this just yesterday and I jailbroke my 16gb iPod Touch 1.1.4 (with software update) on Windows XP in under a minute without the slightest hassle. I have no prior experience with "jailbreaking" although I've read a lot of guides, so I can safely assume this is the easiest way ever.

anticitizenone

What i want to know is will this new Program work with Sprint Network?
iphone on Sprints network? That would rock

mmrulez

just remember that you have to have a data plan with your service, or the features are of an iphone are worthless.

holymogwai

...Of course, there's little reason to believe those "killer third party apps." will even be available in June. Or by December, for that matter.
With all the restrictions Apple is placing on development, people don't have much impetus to keep from jailbreaking...even after the release of 2.0.

Miranda Kali

I'm sure this is out there, somewhere, but is there an easy way to hook a jailbroken phone up to my carrier, Centennial Wireless? I'd love to keep them instead of AT&T, and I'm nervous that - when I do get the iPhone - I won't be able to use it on Centennial's network.

If it does work, then I'd love to try this out...

davelawrence8

@davelawrence8:
If its a sim based network then you will be fine

bdk184

Works GREAT on iTouch! :_)

Spiken

hmmm my last commen didn't post :S so I'll make it short!

Is it necessary to reinstall all third party apps after upgrading to 1.1.4 from 1.1.3? Most probably...

lyndwode

I jailbroke 4 1.1.2 iPhones, and have successfully upgraded mine to 1.1.3 and unlocked it as well. I was pretty well informed about all the methods and so on uptill the newest 1.1.4 update. The question is, I've got gobs of 3rd party apps installed, I imagine, I will have to reinstall ALL of them again? (I know it was fun the first time...and the second time...by the third time (after doing something horibly wrong) it stopped being fun, scrolling through hundreds of apps and trying to remember which ones were cool, useful, or just a waste of time, and installing them one by one, then scrolling all the way back down the list to get the next one that starts with letter p...
No way to get around this, is there??

thanks:D

lyndwode

I've been running my jailbroken iPhone via Zibri's ZiPhone for the last 3 months. It's been working great! If you haven't done it yet, don't worry, it won't brick your phone. Just do it, you know you want to...

drwedge

@lyndwode: I would think that, for most apps, all you would have to do is copy the .app folder out of /Applications via sftp. Do your restore to 1.1.4. Jailbreak via ZiPhone. Re-install BSD Subsystem and SSH from Installer, and then copy the .app folders back into /Applications. Make sure permissions are set to 0755 on all the files that you copy back in. Don't copy back in any that are already there, as those are the official ones from Apple. there are probably some settings for some apps in /var/root/Library, too.

Personally, I have a jailbroken 16GB 1.1.3 that I might do the ZiPhone upgrade to get 1.1.4 firmware. I'm hesitant, though, because it works very well right now, and I'd hate to fix something that isn't broken.

heltoupee

@dognose: Like I said in the post, if you had jailbroken your iPhone with a previous firmware version, you should upgrade and restore to a fresh 1.1.4 firmware through iTunes before jailbreaking with ZiPhone.

Adam Pash

WARNING: If you used one of the original unlocks and want to upgrade, it might not be as simple as it looks. There are a lot of reports of Baseband problems with people who had 1.0.2 out of the box and unlocked and upgraded later.

dognose

@mmrulez: The iPhone is a GSM device. Sprint uses CDMA; it won't work on the Sprint network. In the US, AT&T, T-Mobile, and smaller regional carriers are your only option for cell service.

Note for 16GB & 32GB iPhone/Touch owners: zibri appears to have corrected an issue he originally had with the larger capacity models. The latest release of Ziphone was built against his 32GB iPod Touch. Should work with all models now.

...that being said, I'm still sitting on the fence. I've stayed "legit" so far. I just bought the January update for my 16GB Touch, reluctantly so, and I'm looking forward to the App Store this Summer.
Do any Jailbreakers have some favorite/killer apps to suggest? Something that might lure fencesitters, like myself, over to the dark side?

Chimaera

@heltoupee: Thanks for the tip, I am about to try it :D wish me luck! How do I check the permissions? Will try one app first, then see what happens!
It's all just for the fun of it! my 1.1.3 was working well too, but what the hell, I have nothing else to hack...:P

lyndwode

also you can view some pics I took it from the iPhone on my [flickr.com] gallery!

BonGeek

It is superb!

I used it and I upgraded to 1.1.4 and you can view my iPhone Pic there on Flickr!

[flickr.com]

[flickr.com]

Take Care

BonGeek

I just did my 8gb iphone and it worked like a champion...However, I failed to use the backup that i had previously when it asked me if I wanted to set it up as a snew phone or use the backup...so all my notes and photos are gone (kind of a bummer) but outside of that it has worked quite well thus far! Would recommend to anyone who is scared to jailbreak.

MacRule36

@xxdesmus: I'm still at Jailbroken 1.1.1 too... Too lazy to jailbreak up to 1.1.2 or 1.1.3 or 1.1.4. Nothing reaaally worth while

ph15h

I have yet to find a reason to upgrade my jailbroken Touch from v1.1.1 ....waiting for real SDK-made apps to show up.

xxdesmus

So, it seems to have worked, only if the Apps were previously hidden with poof, they will not appear on the home screen. My solution was to reinstall poof, and then make the Apps "Visable" again...We'll see what happens with the rest of them!
thanks again!

lyndwode

What does this jailbrake do with the January update? Is it lost forever if you want to go "legit" again?

Sam

If you have T-Mobile, you can get the data services for $5.99 by adding T-Zones on to your plan.

Look in installer.app for the "T-Zones 5.99 Hack".

jza103

@Miranda Kali: Given what the developers were able to show with just two weeks of work at the SDK event, I'm pretty sure that they'll be plenty of applications available.

As to the "restrictions", once you understand that an iPhone isn't a dual core Mac Air with 2GB of RAM, they're pretty reasonable.

lhmlco

I'm leaning toward doing this today - one question which I haven't seen covered yet:

Does jailbreaking my iPhone require a certain (previous) version of iTunes be installed on my windoze laptop? Or will this process work with the latest iTunes???

If it does require a previous version, what is it and where can I find it? Thanks!

skechada

sam - i just made the leap and jailbroke my iphone (because this process made a previously daunting task seem easy) and the first app i added was the contacts one (allows contacts to be on the home screen vs. buried inside the phone app). this alone is a nice convenience.

virgilstarkwell

I was in an Apple store yesterday and saw a display model that had been hacked via ZiPhone. It was pretty funny actually I didn't say anything to the Apple employee's in case one of them did it.

I posted pictures over at Mac Rumors: [forums.macrumors.com]

teael

I did this at the beginning of the month with my iPod Touch and it worked first go - no mucking around with visiting sites with weird tif files etc. Only thing is, I can't install anything because I don't have wi-fi. I wish i could install apps via iTunes.

da5id_nz

I am ready to purchase an iphone within the next week. Do I need to activate it first with AT&T before running this? I am wanting to port an existing non-AT&T cell number to it during this process.

555Filk

Also, it might be a good time for coming up with an updated (1.1.4) list of the best iPhone apps for jailbroken phones. :)

skechada

@Adam Pash: No, simply restoring and upgrading to 1.1.4 is not enough. There are many reports of this trashing the phone service part. My phone signal is dead since the ziphone unlock.

dognose

@virgilstarkwell:
Nevermind Bro...I caught it...

MacRule36

@skechada:
I agree..I can't find half the stuff that people have been talking about...been looking around since this afternoon and have come up with a few cool apps, but nothing earth shattering...

@virgilstarkwell:
I can't find this one...don't suppose you remember where it is and what it's named? I have been trying to find it for a couple hours now...

MacRule36

Thanks for all your views and experience shared will all. I was planing to purchase a new iPhone and know about this utility by which you can knock the phone (This is what i know). I still have doubt in my mind even though few people confirmed above, But can some please confirm/comment on the below:

If i have a new iPhone and i use this utility, After the break, i can use the phone to either T-Mobile or AT&T, Right? Means i don't have to do any thing extra. I am currently a AT&T subscriber, but just because activating the phone with AT&T start my contract with them again for 2 years, i don't want to do it and want to use this utility so i can use it with AT&T.

Can some one confirm if it would work in my case? I will get my iPhone by this week.. Please some one confirm..

mkstool

Over on Hackint0sh it is being suggested people use iPlus instead of Ziphone to jailbreak/unlock/activate their iPhones. The main reason thrown around is that it is safer. I haven't done it yet, but people may want to head over and read through some of the threads.

zair

@da5id_nz:
This might help you out pal :)
(On Windows at least)
[www.ipodtouchfans.com]
Install apps via USB no wi-fo needed :)
PM on the forums above if you need more help(getting apps) :)
PS if you register it would be nice if you said CharliWag sent yah ;P.
Sorry for the double post.

Charli Wag

FWI
First thing to do when JBing is to add comunity sources to installer and download BSD Subsystem, save you alot of problems later on.

Some more essential sources:
[ipodtouchmaster.com]
Comes with all the apps and Summerboard fixes.

For the Ipod Touch:
[ipodtouched.net]
Various patches and other things that apply to 1.1.4
Beleive me these sources help iPod Touch users ALOT.
I've jailbreaken alot.
Timeline of my jailbreaks
1.1.1(jailbreakme.com)>1.1.2 (Official Soft Upgrade)>1.1.3 (ijailbreak mobile)>1.1.1(AGAIN!)> 1.1.4 (Using the ijailbreak GUI Version of Ziphone) >1.1.4 (with ZiPhone) and Finally 1.1.3 (with Ziphone)
As Always best Ipod Touch Website out there
[ipodtouchfans.com]

Charli Wag

One quick question. Most of the time on every website it says make sure your iPhone is on 1.1.4 firmware. But my question is when you purchased your new iPhone, how can some one tell by just looking at the box that if its a 1.1.3 or 1.1.4 firmware. Also is the Apple store person can tell the customer what would be the firmware on the purchased iPhone?

I mean if the requirement for this utility is to have your iPhone be on 1.1.4, then it would be important to make sure if it really is. Can some one explain or if i am missing some thing here..?

mkstool

Your firmware version is shown when you hook up your phone to your computer and start iTunes. 1.1.4 is the latest version and even if your new phone doesn't have it, it'll prompt you to upgrade when you activate it.

For those of you that had trouble getting a cell signal after using ziphone, just restore and try it again. That's all I did.

biggunks

Wow. I am impressed. I have literally tried this dozens of times before and now it finally works on my unbroken originally 1.1.3 16GB Touch. For those of you who haven't been able to get it to work, This is scary, but mostly painless. One thing that should probably be clarified is that if gets stuck on the Spamming AT part, you have to stop the process, restore the ipod (don't bother resyncing), click fix nvram, then try to jailbreak again.

rabiddachshund

Just wanted to know after jailbreaking my Ipod Touch can i restore it to its original settings, in case something goes wrong with the software.

jdgoal14

@jdgoal14: Yes, all you have to do is hold the home and power buttons until it turns off then back on.

rabiddachshund

Are there any Canadians running an iPhone on a Roger's network? I currently have an iPod touch, and a rogers cellphone but it would be awesome to have an iPhone instead.

Gregnog

I'm a jailbreak n00b and just did a first-time jailbreak of my 8gb iPod Touch and it was surprisingly easy. Unfortunately, though, it seems that the "Customize" app is not availiable for 1.1.3 or 1.1.4, so I am unable to remove the ZiPhone web clip icon, which is somewhat annoying... Unless anyone has any other suggestions?

LastVigilante

@Charli Wag: Thanks! I will check it out! :)

da5id_nz

I'm on a 1.1.3 Dev Team JB that won't play iTunes rentals. Other than that it works great. Is there a fix for that or does this Jailbreak fix that?

nad

Does it matter what version of iTunes I'm running? I read somewhere that for one of the jailbreak methods I need an older version.

And will jailbreaking my iPod touch delete anything off of it like music, videos, or bookmarks in Safari?

bdawg923

@bdawg923: The current version worked just fine for me. Yes, it will delete everything off of the ipod, but that's what iTunes is for. Hell, after I jailbroke it, itunes asked me if I wanted to restore from the latest backup date (a few hours earlier) or if I wanted to set it up as a new ipod.

rabiddachshund

@rabiddachshund: Hmm, is there a way then to make like a note of (or a copy/backup) of all the songs that are currently on my touch so I can transfer just those from my PC later? In other words, I have like 1000 songs on my touch, but like 2000 on my PC. I don't want all 2000 on my touch so I always sync manually. So is it possible to copy the 'playlist' of all the songs currently on my iPod into a new iTunes playlist so I can just sync that one playlist post-jailbreak?

bdawg923

@bdawg923: @bdawg923: Actually, I just used this to jailbreak my 8gb iPod Touch, and all of my music, movies, contacts, bookmarks... everything remained perfectly intact. This was my first jailbreak, so I can't guarantee the same results, but I didn't do anything different then instructed. Before this I was running 1.1.2, then I upgraded via iTunes to 1.1.4, then used ZiPhone to jailbreak and all runs well. I am noticing that there are a lot of third-party apps that don't run on the 1.1.4 firmware yet, which is dissapointing, so I may backtrack and try the 1.1.2 jailbreak. Good luck!

LastVigilante

I jailbroke my Touch with ZiPhone 2.5c and it worked great. One caveat - If you do use ZiPhone you may notice that if you're using a program like iPhoneBrowser that your whole iPod directory isn't able to be viewed. Apparently this is a consequence of using ZiPhone.

Also, if you don't have wifi (like me) a useful program for you might be Gopher . What it's supposed to do is replace the functionality of the installer.app, but on you PC. So, you run Gopher and it connects up to all those source sites like installer.app does on the iPod but it does it on your PC. You choose the apps you'd like to install from Gopher, then it transfers them over to your iPod.

Only thing is it doesn't seem to work for me: probably a combination of my having 1.1.4 (it's only been tested up to 1.1.3) and having jailbroken with Ziphone and not having the entire iPod directory available to me.

It may work for you though.

da5id_nz

@LastVigilante: Erk. Yeah... who doesn't read directions? Me! I just went back and re-read the paragraph that said "you should restore your iPhone or iPod touch to the latest factory firmware (1.1.4) before continuing. When you restore, tell iTunes that want to set up the restored iPhone as a new phone" Well, I only updated to 1.1.4, and I didn't restore. This could explain some problems I've been having installing apps or having non-functioning apps. So, upon further review: Yes, restoring your iPod will erase all your files and settings, and never to listen to anything I say in the future.

LastVigilante

@LastVigilante: Yeah, in the article it says "First, let's talk preparation. If you're working with a fresh, up-to-date device, there's really nothing to it-you're ready to proceed to the next step. If you've already jailbroken your phone once before-especially a 1.1.3 iPhone jailbreak using one of the older methods-then you should restore your iPhone or iPod touch to the latest factory firmware (1.1.4) before continuing. When you restore, tell iTunes that want to set up the restored iPhone as a new phone rather than restoring the settings from the previously jailbroken phone."

So if I haven't jailbroken before, and my firmware is already 1.1.4, then I don't need to restore. I know that restoring deletes everything off the iPod but since I don't do the restore, then ZiPhone probably won't delete everything after jailbreak like you said in your other comment. Right?

bdawg923

Before you do that, maybe Adam Pash can respond in the comments to clear up any confusion?

bdawg923

@bdawg923: That is the exact area where I am confused as well, so you may wish to seek the advice of a more experienced jailbreaker. You see, I never jailbreaked before either, so I upgraded to 1.1.4 (but didn't restore, so all my files were intact) and then I ran ZiPhone, which, yes, jailbreaked my iPod Touch and left all my files untouched.

However, I am noticing issues with installing and running third-party apps that otherwise should run. For instance, the ToDo app installs fine, but when I go to launch it my screen goes white, then bounces me back to the home screen. Other apps fail at install, giving me an error "This package requires firmware 1.1.x". This may or may not have something to do with the fact that I didn't full restore before jailbreaking.

When Adam Pash instructs to start with "a fresh, up-to-date device," I think by fresh he means empty, straight out of the box, no files or settings mucked with. I'm going to try doing that today, (its going to suck to lose my contacts, bookmarks & calendar entries) but I'll let you know the results. *fingers crossed*

LastVigilante

ziPhone is awesome. I've been waiting for simple iPhone hacks, and this really closes the deal. Gotta hurry to get an iPhone...

This is much like the easier tutorial to install Mac OS X on a PC with the updated Kalaway (isn't it?) disc.

Gotta love Mac-hacks :D

sumeshpremraj

I can't seem to get any help out of #ziphone on irc so has anyone else had any problems playing music (or doing anything) when not connected to wifi on a 16gb touch?

rabiddachshund

My Blackberry just broke, should I switch to iPhone now because of this or use a junky old phone and wait it out till june?

teehoi

@LastVigilante:

Add the source [iprodtouchmaster.com]

Refresh the source and find the item as "1.1.4 applications" and install it. You will get every thing (all the 5 additional applications + icon arrangement feature)

mkstool

Confirmed - 1.1.4 jailbroken, useable, but as stated, full directory is not accessible. Three thousand cheers to the team that snapped out this bit of code.

dasverlangen

I tried shuting down by holding down my power button and button and it restarted but now I am getting BSC root: md0, major 2, minor 0 in ipod - over and over.

carol816

Help! I tried it on my ipod touch and now I am stuck at the white text on the black screen. I tried the FIX NVRAM and the test now is hung at IOIpodUSBDevice:startStack can't start! Need configuration

What now? I tried to restart itunes but it doesn't detect the touch.

carol816

I chose to stay at 1.1.2 because it just seemed to be the most stable version when it comes to compatibility with other applications from the installer. I just love summerboard.

Maxthemac

If you're running 1.1.4 (non-jailbroken), do you still need to restore in iTunes? Do have to get rid of the Mail, Maps, Stocks, etc. before you can run this ZiPhone file?

beatlesfanatic

Can you get a visual list of voicemail messages on a jailbroken iPhone with T-Mobile? That's the feature that I really want but I don't want to switch to AT&T.

snuka

thinking about jailbreaking...is there a way to go back to a legit iphone after it's jailbroken?

cjd

@mkstool: OhmygodIthinkIjustwetmyself! Awesome, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Though, for the information of others, the proper item to look for is "iPhone 1.1.4 Apps." Now I'm wishing I did this a long time ago. Eeee! Wiggly icons!

@bdawg923: I never got around to trying the full restore, but since then there was an Installer.app update, and the wisdom of mkstool was bestowed upon me, so now everything is exactly where I want it. Like I said, I'm on a Windows machine and jailbroke without losing any data on my 8gb iPod, so I hope you have the same luck. rabiddachshund seems to be having issues, so I suppose YMMV.

LastVigilante

ymmv?

rabiddachshund

I was interested in ZiPhone when it originally came out but, at the time, it was only available for Leopard (isn't it still?) so I checked out iNdependence for Mac. [code.google.com]
it was super easy to perform all the above functions and more!

farmerfresh

@rabiddachshund: Your Mileage May Vary. Acronyms, FTW! Regarding your issues, I've seen things around the 'net regarding ZiPhone having trouble jailbreaking 16GB iPods and iPhones something to do with a BSD root error, which you may wish to look into.

LastVigilante

oh, duh. I saw some sort of BSD subsystem fix in the tweaks section that I vaguely remember being told to install by some outdated guide. I'm on vacation atm so I just restored it back to factory. I'll try again when I get home.

rabiddachshund

@LastVigilante: Thanks! I'll do the jailbreak soon then. If everything gets deleted, then I still have a backup on my PC.

bdawg923

This worked amazingly well for my 8gb ipod touch. I didn't need to restore it or anything. I didn't lose anything either. The only problem is that certain apps don't work on 1.1.4. But other than that, I can't complain.

VinnyDakid

@VinnyDakid: Do you mean the apps that were already on the iPod (like YouTube) or apps that you got from installer?

I have a few more questions: When Apple releases the next update (with the App Store), what should I do to upgrade? Assuming Zibri releases a new version of ZiPhone, will I have to just run that (based on how these past releases and updates have gone like from 1.1.2 to 1.1.3 and 1.1.3 to 1.1.4) or should I restore and then run the app? I'm just curious for the future.

And lastly, if there a specific order to do this in? (the plugging in of iPod, closing iTunes, clicking the iPod jailbreak button in ZiPhone)?

bdawg923

I jailbroke my ipod touch back with 1.1.2 using a rather complex method. I restored it for the SDK and then realized there would be no news apps. Not willing to wait, I found Ziphone and jailbroke my ipod again. With version 2.5 there were a few hiccups such as it being stuck on certain parts but someone else was able to help me. I can only assume that they fixed this with Ziphone 2.6. Anyways, for people new to jailbreaking [www.ipodtouchfans.com] is a great location for themes, apps, and help.

fwump38

Thanks CHARLIE WAG for your comments - I previously had my ipod touch hacked under 1.1 and then restored to factory settings and used it for a while, decided to hack it again under .4 and couldnt figure out why i was having all the problems with the installer - adding your sources fixed everything, cheers!

slidenby

@bdawg923: I mean the apps I got from installer. Oddly enough I didn't even need the fixes for the apps already on it. But after this, my entire ipod locked up. At first, one app didn't work, then once I got the fix, the whole ipod locked up. A quick restore fixed that and I will probably jailbreak it again later today.

VinnyDakid

Opps my attempt at clever wit link didn't work..
stupid a herf tag
here is the link carol to fix that problem.
[www.ipodtouchfans.com]

Charli Wag

@carol816: Use the Google, Luke

BTW it's called
BSD root: md0, major 2, minor 0
Not BSC.

Use the link above to fix the error without restoring.
If you got anymore problems then just search ziphone on Ipod touch Fans Forums gold mine of fixes there.
[www.ipodtouchfans.com]

Charli Wag